Q:  Can you tell us a bit about your relationship 
with Marshall McLuhan?

A:  Well, I would like to talk about my relationship 
with Marshall McLuhan, because it was a great 
privilege to have known this man and to have been 
able to have collaborated with him. I was first 
introduced to him by Arthur Porter, when I began 
to organize a future studies group called “The Club 
of Gnu” and Marshall had heard about me, much to 
my surprise, because I taught a course called “The 
Poetry of Physics.” He invited me for lunch, and we 
sat and had lunch together in the St. Michael’s 
lunchroom where the professors and the priests